We just talked live with Jonathan Karl, the political reporter and author who’s been covering Donald Trump since the 1990s, and has now written four books on Donald Trump’s presidencies, including the new Retribution: Donald Trump and the Campaign That Changed America, an inside account and postmortem of the 2024 campaigns. Karl told us about:
How the most consequential act of Joe Biden’s career — running again — just sort of happened without any real discussion, and why the Democrats still haven’t found their way
How he deals with Donald Trump’s mix of insults and friendliness toward him — and what it’s like to report on a presidency and in a country increasingly divorced from the facts
Why he thinks Trump’s motivation is no longer attention but getting revenge — and why he thinks that has no bounds
And why he still believes America is going to make it
If you’re concerned about the future and wondering how we got here, you won’t want to miss this one. Just click on the video player above to watch the entire conversation.
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