Today, a conversation with two writers whose books take on the same fundamental question: What happens when people and institutions fold? When accommodation and collaboration and looking the other way become the norm, not the exception?
It’s a conversation in two acts. First Jacob Weisberg joined me to discuss Profiles in Cowardice, his new book about capitulation under Trump. Then Robert P. Jones joined me to talk about Backslide, his new book about White Christianity’s devotion to Trump, enabling of authoritarianism, and, in Jones’ view, commitment of “apostasy.”
Two writers, two books, two acts, and a common underlying question: Can democracy, a system of citizens standing up, endure without spines?
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