6 Comments
User's avatar
Amy Cohen MD's avatar

Also, we have a government that continuously lies and holds critical secrets, that denies clearly factual information, and is erasing concrete historical references. And is itself continuously spreading conspiracy assertions placing itself as the victim. And then there’s the monetized click baiting on social media.

Jean hanlon's avatar

Step 1: Draw up a petition (From Congress - since POTUS#47 is avoiding them) stating , as it DOES.that under Constitutional LAW a President cannot deploy the Military for reasons only he wishes to assert, but must get the APPROVAL of the Senate AND House.

Step 2: Form a bipartisan COMMITTEE to present POTUS#47 with the petition, and charge him with ‘Unconstitutional Acts’ re the Venezuelan offensive and BOTH attacks on Iran, including the illegal ongoing War.

Step3: OCCUPY the Oval Office - an old school “sit in”, and refuse to leave until the Committee debates the issues of:

- a compulsory medical & psychological assessment of the President

- an independent audit of the Treasury

- an independent study of the bogus info being forced by Kennedy

- setting up FBI teams to ascertain the legality of ALL deportations since Jan 2025

- examination of the Trump family’s BitCoin profits

- COMPLETE EPSTEIN FILES and FULL DISCLOSURE

Step 4: Live video feed of these proceedings.

Step 5: Public recognition of THE PEOPLE’S RIGHT TO BE THERE - ABILITY TO ADDRESS THE POTUS - AND EXPECTATION THAT THE OWNERSHIP ‘BY THEMSELVES’ OF THE OVAL OFFICE TO BE 1. RECOGNIZED BY POTUS #47, 2. RESPECTED BY POTUS #47, 3. ALLOWED TO CONTINUE UNTIL SUCH TIME AS POTUS #47 AGREES WITH THE DEMANDS OF THE LEGAL PETITION.

EITHER AMERICANS HAVE RIGHTS AND ‘OWNERSHIP’ OF THEIR GOVERNMENT AND ITS PROPERTIES…OR A DICTATORSHIP HAS REPLACED THE USA’S DEMOCRACY…

… WHICH IS IT? 🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♀️

Step 6: MAKE HISTORY

Mary Fifield's avatar

One of the most salient points of this conversation was Alexandra Brodsky's comment that "patriarchy is absent from much of the analysis." She appears to be the only woman on the panel, and her responses were absent from several of the questions. It's worth examining the point she is making, not just to have female representation in the discourse but to understand the deep patterns at play even in the approach to the subject.

J.J. Loughran's avatar

A couple of things have attracted my notice:

1. When we observe the 'projection' that surrounds the QAnon and other stories, it is obvious that some of this was based in real actions. Not the actions of the opposition, rather the reality. PizzaGate involved sexual abuse of children - and that was actively happening. We hear about baby ranches and so much more. All seem supported by the emails and investigations. This 'blame others and pretend horror' is significant. It seems to work. Does it energize the followers more than any damage of discovery of reality? Is it then an extension that ownership of the story means that it is an immunity?

2. Another question arises, in certain societal reference acceptance can be unavailable. I know it is an old concept, but one that I still see every now and again. Acceptance can be denied to a social climber, a second-rate nouveau riche, money is all they have. Trump and family were fairly removed from the upper social classes in New York. It is not something many of my friends and associates see or have familiarity with. The treatment, in general, is that money gives you entree. With hereditary wealth - money is not instant acceptance. Except? Epstein seems to have surmounted that barrier. Maybe not, but it seems so on the surface. And I wonder.

Jayne's avatar

There's lots of analysis on this but will we ever see any actual justice? I have serious doubts.

VermontRobbyPorter's avatar

There's an existential aspect to both the conspiracy theories and inequality which I feel you get close to sometimes, but never quite address.

First with conspiracy theories. One can't help but notice, just on a mechanical level, that conspiracy theories are structurally identical to religion. In a conspiracy theory you have a mysterious force operating secretly to manipulate the world. The believers have a sense of what this force wants, good or bad. (QAnon for instance.) They believe the force communicates its intentions through cryptic symbols or events which a select group of insiders can interpret and translate into more common understanding.

The primary difference between this and religion is that conspiracy theorists usually believe that the mysterious force is operating with ill intent (not always) and religious believers think the force is operating in the interest of the believers.

It's as though the cognitive architecture of the human brain needs to believe something like this in order to make sense of the world.

Of course, there are mysterious and complicated forces operating in the world, whether it is the Epstein class or just weather cycles, so conspiracy theorists aren't entirely wrong in their suspicions, although they are usually wrong in the details.

But it seems to me that this existential problem, "Why is the world the way it is? Why are we here?", extends also to the Epstein class. Ultimately they too have an existential problem. After all, when every material need is satisfied and every carnal and hedonistic impulse can be indulged without legal consequence, the question of the point of your existence must chase you pretty relentlessly. And it seems, from your reporting, that they answer this question in the most natural and primitive way possible, by protecting the tribe, their tribe, the tribe of globe trotting, super-wealthy Epsteinites. They do what they do for their tribe which is not connected to any place or ideology but to money.

I wrote a slighly different take on this here

https://vermontrobbyporter.substack.com/p/now-we-know-why-we-cant-have-nice