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Karen Williams's avatar

Wonderful conversation, thx

Betsy's avatar

Wow Super Educational 4.6k listeners 👍awesome great content ✌️&🫶

M Whitehead's avatar

Excellent, educational conversation offering hope through the fog! Thank you to each of you. Great questions. Thoughtful answers.

Bren's avatar

more of us than there are of them💙

JG's avatar

Two of my favorite guys. I admire your intelligence and expertise.

Kari Hull in Rio Rico AZ's avatar

I think that is what making people wake up is the two state sanctioned assassinations we all witnessed. AND the blatant LIES that followed only minute after the horrific videos were posted.

Regina Islas's avatar

M movie on Mystery Science Theater 3000-oh I freakin' loved that! GUFFAW

Prudence Tippins's avatar

I appreciate Paul's use of the personal ("erratic and abusive") because it offers a distinction between the normal operations of nation-states and what the U.S.'s figurehead is doing, which is going rogue and ignoring the structure of his own country. The adjectives obviously apply to his behavior to U.S. citizens, as well.

I also appreciate Anand's question about what other countries, particularly European countries, could do to help the U.S. not descend further into fascism. It's not simply a question of charity but also of self-interest. Is the rest of the world ready to discount all US citizens because we (sort of) elected someone with a bullying personality and a disregard for any rule or law that does not give him supreme authority? Then again, maybe they need to see that we are willing to shoulder the hard work ourselves first. Perhaps, in this and in many ways, Minneapolis is sowing the seeds.

Just a note of thanks for all the hard work going into these interviews, Anand (and team).

Kirsten L. Held's avatar

Fabulous conversation! Thanks to you both.

Carol A's avatar

Fabulous! Both give us hope!

Bren's avatar

two of my favorite thinkers!

Paola's avatar

Two of my currently favored people :)