I would like to believe Epsteingate would be the crack in the teflon. But I’m not holding my breath. Those of us who see DJT for the heinous human being that he is are desperately seeking and awaiting the tipping point where his character flaws become suddenly apparent to his acolytes. But I’ve lost all hope that they’ll ever see him for what he is at this point. He has his groupies firmly under his command.
My only hope is that those independents who swung his way in the last election are experiencing quiet nausea about their choice. Maybe they’ll think twice about supporting the candidates he’ll be promoting in the midterms.
Not holding my breath, either, but still hoping. Could this be the off-ramp, the plausible excuse for not continuing to support him? Maybe. I don't think it has too much to do with a concern about sex trafficking or child abuse but more to do with vengeance thwarted. Deep MAGA wants to see the Deep State actors they hate in jail. Maybe Trump will find another way to try to satisfy that desire---he's clearly trying to do that as we speak.
It really is sobering to see how many in Trump's MAGA cult will stick with him, for whatever reasons, no matter how many things are revealed about a man so shot through with moral holes that he might rival a block of swiss cheese. On the other hand--and this might seem conspiratorial so I'll apologize in advance if it is--I find it interesting that this so-called breaking news is breaking right after the Bloated Break for Billionaires passed into law. I've long suspected that the billionaire brotherhood would find a way to rid themselves of Trump once his usefulness came to an end. And now, this. This plus his deteriorating health--which is also newly a major news item, might result in any number of outcomes antithetical to Trump remaining in office.
I found myself wondering if this could actually be the thing that brings him down. This?! Out of everything that he has done and been convicted of, this is what broke his fans? Unbelievable, but if it works, I'm all for it.
Lord of the Lies, AG Bondi & much of MSM work overtime to distract his “stupid people” with MLK files, Hillary email & other bs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhQfyMpyd-E
I think that it is likely that the current White House occupant is also a pedophile. If you look at the photo of him with the really young girl and that he and Epstein took underage girls to a casino there is certainly a trail of circumstantial evidence. What did the two predators do with the girls before and after their arrival at the casino? When the current White House occupant was asked if he had an age limit he said no and than added that he wouldn't be involved with a 12 year old. What about a 16 year old? This is what he doesn't want his supporters to know. Even they think that pedophiles are the worst of the worst.
Ghislane is rehearsing the story with the Trump Factory that she is going to tell. In exchange, she will be pardoned, promised, and paid. Let’s prophesize what she will say about Clinton or Obama, or maybe add Newsome to the made up story as he is gaining traction. She’s a psychopath, too, so a scheme is now being hatched. What will the conspiracy theorists do with her “confession”?
Dear fellow commenters, with all of his history how could we think that this will be different? Time and again he just tells them and they believe; they just do. Their God can do no wrong. They know it is the deep state, the elites all want to take him down - he will show them as he always has.
First, anything that gets released will already have been sanitized. Second, Maxwell—Epstein’s Girl Friday—is sitting in prison and will no doubt be offered a fortune to keep her mouth shut. Then Trump will step up and say, “See? I told you—nothing there. Just another witch hunt. Another hoax."
One more scandal, shrugged off like all the others.
Dear fellow lefties: Given everything we already know about him, it takes a particular kind of person to still support Trump. And let’s be clear—if you continue to support and enable him, you are no better.
This is the sentiment that is holding many of us together--just sort of. It's the wondering about whether we dare hope that something will cause some of the staunchest Trump supporters to begin to doubt.
The thing is that some of us have learned, through reading, through friends who have been in cults, from us, ourselves, who may have been blinded by our own surest of convictions that in reality came from outside us, that once there is a real doubt about a belief system there is room for other doubts to take hold.
As I read about fascism in Italy on my last day here, I am reminded of the many dictatorships that came before this one, and particularly Mussolini, of course, is the most egregious. But then there was Berlusconi, who seemed a joke until he wasn't, and his family still owns several television stations here.
What I am struck by, as a sidenote, is that I have alluded to our need for a peace movement in America, but it may be more of a realization on all sides that we need one another. An Italian recently exclaimed that in Italy, people need, on a political level, to be relational because otherwise, the government collapses. In a two-party system, it has been easy to dismiss, degrade, and almost castrate people of the currently wrong party.
Anand, as you recently emphasized, we cannot afford to push away people who are now having doubts; we need, instead, to welcome them with open arms.
I cautiously hope for a forum where we have that reckoning, not only in examining how we have come to this scary point, but also in growing our curiosity about how they, all the people who felt silenced and excluded before, came to swallow Trump's Kool-Aid.
It is too soon to celebrate. But if people are convinced of the Democrats' pedophilia can see the truth here, well, a toast to that possibility.
First, anything that gets released will already have been sanitized. Second, Maxwell—Epstein’s Girl Friday—is sitting in prison and will no doubt be offered a fortune to keep her mouth shut. Then Trump will step up and say, “See? I told you—nothing there. Just another witch hunt. Another hoax.”
One more scandal, shrugged off like all the others.
Dear fellow lefties: Given everything we already know about him, it takes a particular kind of person to still support Trump. And let’s be clear—if you continue to support and enable him, you are no better.
I would like to believe Epsteingate would be the crack in the teflon. But I’m not holding my breath. Those of us who see DJT for the heinous human being that he is are desperately seeking and awaiting the tipping point where his character flaws become suddenly apparent to his acolytes. But I’ve lost all hope that they’ll ever see him for what he is at this point. He has his groupies firmly under his command.
My only hope is that those independents who swung his way in the last election are experiencing quiet nausea about their choice. Maybe they’ll think twice about supporting the candidates he’ll be promoting in the midterms.
Not holding my breath, either, but still hoping. Could this be the off-ramp, the plausible excuse for not continuing to support him? Maybe. I don't think it has too much to do with a concern about sex trafficking or child abuse but more to do with vengeance thwarted. Deep MAGA wants to see the Deep State actors they hate in jail. Maybe Trump will find another way to try to satisfy that desire---he's clearly trying to do that as we speak.
We’re doomed to living with trump’s legacy of lies. The dam must break.
It really is sobering to see how many in Trump's MAGA cult will stick with him, for whatever reasons, no matter how many things are revealed about a man so shot through with moral holes that he might rival a block of swiss cheese. On the other hand--and this might seem conspiratorial so I'll apologize in advance if it is--I find it interesting that this so-called breaking news is breaking right after the Bloated Break for Billionaires passed into law. I've long suspected that the billionaire brotherhood would find a way to rid themselves of Trump once his usefulness came to an end. And now, this. This plus his deteriorating health--which is also newly a major news item, might result in any number of outcomes antithetical to Trump remaining in office.
I found myself wondering if this could actually be the thing that brings him down. This?! Out of everything that he has done and been convicted of, this is what broke his fans? Unbelievable, but if it works, I'm all for it.
Lord of the Lies, AG Bondi & much of MSM work overtime to distract his “stupid people” with MLK files, Hillary email & other bs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhQfyMpyd-E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwGUGWGrR84
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwOLo_U6bTw
I think that it is likely that the current White House occupant is also a pedophile. If you look at the photo of him with the really young girl and that he and Epstein took underage girls to a casino there is certainly a trail of circumstantial evidence. What did the two predators do with the girls before and after their arrival at the casino? When the current White House occupant was asked if he had an age limit he said no and than added that he wouldn't be involved with a 12 year old. What about a 16 year old? This is what he doesn't want his supporters to know. Even they think that pedophiles are the worst of the worst.
Ghislane is rehearsing the story with the Trump Factory that she is going to tell. In exchange, she will be pardoned, promised, and paid. Let’s prophesize what she will say about Clinton or Obama, or maybe add Newsome to the made up story as he is gaining traction. She’s a psychopath, too, so a scheme is now being hatched. What will the conspiracy theorists do with her “confession”?
Dear fellow commenters, with all of his history how could we think that this will be different? Time and again he just tells them and they believe; they just do. Their God can do no wrong. They know it is the deep state, the elites all want to take him down - he will show them as he always has.
We think and pray he doth be hoisted on his own petard.
First, anything that gets released will already have been sanitized. Second, Maxwell—Epstein’s Girl Friday—is sitting in prison and will no doubt be offered a fortune to keep her mouth shut. Then Trump will step up and say, “See? I told you—nothing there. Just another witch hunt. Another hoax."
One more scandal, shrugged off like all the others.
Dear fellow lefties: Given everything we already know about him, it takes a particular kind of person to still support Trump. And let’s be clear—if you continue to support and enable him, you are no better.
This is the sentiment that is holding many of us together--just sort of. It's the wondering about whether we dare hope that something will cause some of the staunchest Trump supporters to begin to doubt.
The thing is that some of us have learned, through reading, through friends who have been in cults, from us, ourselves, who may have been blinded by our own surest of convictions that in reality came from outside us, that once there is a real doubt about a belief system there is room for other doubts to take hold.
As I read about fascism in Italy on my last day here, I am reminded of the many dictatorships that came before this one, and particularly Mussolini, of course, is the most egregious. But then there was Berlusconi, who seemed a joke until he wasn't, and his family still owns several television stations here.
What I am struck by, as a sidenote, is that I have alluded to our need for a peace movement in America, but it may be more of a realization on all sides that we need one another. An Italian recently exclaimed that in Italy, people need, on a political level, to be relational because otherwise, the government collapses. In a two-party system, it has been easy to dismiss, degrade, and almost castrate people of the currently wrong party.
Anand, as you recently emphasized, we cannot afford to push away people who are now having doubts; we need, instead, to welcome them with open arms.
I cautiously hope for a forum where we have that reckoning, not only in examining how we have come to this scary point, but also in growing our curiosity about how they, all the people who felt silenced and excluded before, came to swallow Trump's Kool-Aid.
It is too soon to celebrate. But if people are convinced of the Democrats' pedophilia can see the truth here, well, a toast to that possibility.
It’s not about Trump.
Bill Gates, Bill Clinton etc etc are implicated. The Swamp critters keep swimming.
And what about the victims?
They are sitting next to you. They were raped to the inch of their life and/or sexually harassed.
First, anything that gets released will already have been sanitized. Second, Maxwell—Epstein’s Girl Friday—is sitting in prison and will no doubt be offered a fortune to keep her mouth shut. Then Trump will step up and say, “See? I told you—nothing there. Just another witch hunt. Another hoax.”
One more scandal, shrugged off like all the others.
Dear fellow lefties: Given everything we already know about him, it takes a particular kind of person to still support Trump. And let’s be clear—if you continue to support and enable him, you are no better.