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Paul Loeb's avatar

Really thoughtful conversation. Maybe because most people don't follow our overseas interventions that closely, and they've been so destructive, it's easy for progressives to use them to write off America entirely, discarding the traditions of all who have struggled and sometimes made progress for justice. And because Trump has been so damaging, to write off those who voted for him without recognizing that they were voting from misinformation and pain and that some of them could be won back and long term must be won back.

Paul Loeb, author Soul of a Citizen and The Impossible Will Take a Little While

ruth schimel's avatar

Yes, definitely address what made Trump(ism) possible. Yet that is a tall order of multiple, interacting reasons and issues including political frameworks, legal systems that work against less well-off, unfair distribution of resources. That just names some that militate against effective policy making, power sharing and organizing. Nor does it address the ping pong of progress and regression of our history. What is the synthesis to transcend? Who are the people that will lead this and what resources will have to be marshaled? Ruth Schimel

Gregg Barak's avatar

You have correctly analyzed Abdul's approach and analysis. I have seen him give more than four presentations this primary season and have been backing him since he ran for Gov. in 2017. We need him and 49 more U.S. Senators like him. Than we could take care of business -- no problem.

tlb's avatar

thank you, i need to be reminded to shut my mouth and open my arms. and i look forward to voting for him soon!

Marian Gillis's avatar

He brings a scientific analysis of public policy to the average person.

Michigander’s love him and hope he becomes their Senator soon.

But an outside PAC with an agenda have dumped many millions to steal the election, AIPAC.

I did not vote for Bibi!

Ann Fleck-Henderson's avatar

I agree wholeheartedly with this perspective. Listen first; empathy first; people come to their convictions honestly. Then you can talk -- not fight, talk. Mamdani in NY is a good example of something that worked and works. Granted, the USA is not New York City.

Mo Khan's avatar

This was actually one of the the most powerful and important term stories. I’ve read in a long while. I think he’s really got it right

s. deutsch's avatar

Agree absolutely that Democrats have been screaming "Vanilla". The virtue signaling has got to stop. They need to get a clue and get rid of the virtual septum piercings and compost buckets. America is not the old New Yorker cartoon map of New York, nothing in the middle 3,000 miles, and then California. And Democrats need to wake up to the fact that a Swiss Army knife is not protection against a Republican Uzi, and for heaven's sake, take a page from trump's not so secret verbal weapon tic: repetition, repetition, repetition - until it's an alternative truth worm wriggled into the national consciousness.

Exhibit #1 of the Democratic failure was the jaw dropping timidity and lack of aggressive action around showing - repeatedly- the feces smeared on the walls in the Capitol on January 6, 2021, the gruesome wounds to the police protecting it, the cowardice and hideous photographic reality, pre- AI manipulation. It should have been shown on a network, cable, social media loop for months until it became the de facto reality of truth about trump and maga, crushing their narrative. That was the chance, the time to rally the U.S around patriotic democracy. The thread was lost, and we can have all the No Kings rallies for the next decade to our peril. Funny posters, the Obama " We go high" is a losing proposition now.

However, as someone who has spent a lifetime twisting my self into a pretzel trying to see other's POV and empathize (usually men), holding out umpteen olive branches, trying to understand "where they were coming from", how they got there, and what made them that way (the psychology of it), I must say that, now, I'm done. Not crying over trump's poor, misguided enablers who voted against their own self interests (twice). They made their bed of thorns, and I'm not going to help them change the mattress and sheets. F**k it, they can lie in it.

June M Grifo's avatar

In my view he is totally correct. I am supporting him.