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Heidi Shusterman's avatar

Loved the notion that the men and women CEO's coming out of the Depression or WWII would feel SHAME at earning so much more than the workers on the floors of their companies: so maybe we need a new kind of institutionalized shared common experience so that the sacred feeling of kinship with and responsibility towards our fellow man cannot be lost.

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Marguerite's avatar

I watched this yesterday and am so grateful for both of you. Always learn so much and appreciate both the depth and passion. Thank you again.

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Lynn's avatar

Love the last segment of this conversation from both Anand and Terry. “America is still Americaning.”

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Sara Mandelbaum's avatar

Two of my favorite writers and thinkers having a chat. More please!

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Barbara Tolley's avatar

Excellent. I am watching with my coffee, and am finding you and Terry so engaging. Let them eat Ozempic is outrageous—especially when the cheaper version is to be bought through Trumps pharmacy or what it is disguised as one, and the one who profits—Trump and his family. Sick! Love it when failing ceos get massive rages. That is sarcastic. I am very pro-Mandami, who is just expanding programs that already exist in NY. And, he does have dreams beyond affordability for NYC.

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Barbara Tolley's avatar

And, I would like to add he reminds me of JFK. I have been watching the conspiracy & politics themed TCM films, namely 1973 Executive Action (so pertinent to today) and want to say Mandami does represent that kind of dreaming: JFK, not Trump’s worship of the trappings of wealth. And, everybody must remember the big dreams that made America prosperous in the postwar era grew in colleges, in education, which is being utterly unmade by the terrible people in the White House.

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Linda Chiles's avatar

Boy oh boy do I hope you're right about this country moving in the QUEENS direction as opposed to Manhattan.!!! If it turns out that way...we will be in super condition for the future 250 years.

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Linda Chiles's avatar

Superb conversation...thank you tons for the upbeat, positive ending especially.

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Kathleen M Kendrick's avatar

I love this!!! Thank you so much!

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Chiara's avatar

this was truly a great conversation--full of heart. tx u.

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Amy Guala's avatar

Thank you both. I just wanted to say that whether its 20X or 200X the shop floor salary I still fail to see why it should be any multiple at all. I would truly like to see an explanation of the qualitative differences in true effort and cognitive load between the shop foreman and a CEO. Seriously, what exactly are we paying a CEO to do? I am not naive, I am trying to shine a light on how much we as a country have always rewarded ambition over depth of skill.

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Heather Olivier's avatar

Excellent interview on the POSSIBLE saving of our democracy by THE PEOPLE. The current Republican administration is made up of TRAITORS Except 1 or 2 who occasionally vote with the democrats. Stay engaged and KEEP FIGHTING ALL OF THEM. Currently, affordability has been abdicated by the thief in chief and the oligarchs of America. Hope is in the sweep by the elected democrats on November 4, 2025.

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Jo Addy's avatar

Affordability is an important operating standard, assuming that opportunity to reach beyond that is protected for all.

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Linda Julien's avatar

Affordability is an idea like public safety: where I am at will frame how I define either

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A______'s avatar

This was a great conversation. Thank you Terry and Anand.

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LindyLoo's avatar

I loved your conversation! Speaking with respect, humor, gratitude, kindness, and optimism. Thank you!

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