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Seriously's avatar

These people with their dark fantasies should not be anywhere near the nexus of power. They are simply fools with money.

Leigh Haber's avatar

Susan. The author isn’t feeling well. We have had to cancel today’s Live unfortunately.

Leigh Haber's avatar

So sorry we have had to cancel today’s live as our guest isn’t feeling well. Hope to pick this up another time.

Dian Allison's avatar

Ohhh and I told my whole FAMILY! hope she feels better real soon! 🥰

Leigh Haber's avatar

I know. I’m disappointed too!! I hope we can at least do a written q and a with Jessica sometime soon. Such an important topic. We can’t let the Heritage Foundation continue to have such an impact on our lives and leaders.

Paula B.'s avatar

They have no idea what they're talking about. I grew up in the fifties. By the time I was seven and my sister was four, my parents were divorced and we were living with my narcissistic mother who was "boy-crazy" and promiscuous. My father married a woman who hated us and didn't want us around. Do these idiots think they're going to legislate that kind of stuff away?

Susan Miville's avatar

They don't think about unintended consequences or ill effects of an action. They are obsessed with the idea of control and see only what they wish to see.

Susan's avatar

Since you are talking about authoritarian leaders and don’t understand combined powers. I would like to suggest two books. One by Anne Applebaum, Authoritarian Inc., and Strongman. I read it both last year. And gives you a deep understanding of what’s going on today. As of yet I can’t comment on our current book club as yet as I just started it. But, I’m not a scholarly reader. And the author approaching the topic for even me to understand.

Leigh Haber's avatar

Thanks, Susan--I've read both of those books. Great suggestion!

Susan Miville's avatar

The conversation with Jessica Grose should be illuminating. I am not at all surprised that the people behind Project 2025 want to diminish women's role in society. They all seem to hate women, unless they can control them. It is a totally antiquated belief system that women should not have autonomy. I can't think of anything worse than retreating back to a situation where women are confined and relegated to domestic duties. I am all for having a home, I was married twice, the second time for 33 years (he died two years ago), we had a son who is now the father of three children, whom I love dearly. But my second husband and I functioned more like a team, taking on different tasks and working out solutions that would benefit both us and family members. Clearly this is not what Project 2025 espouses. They don't want male female equality; they want male domination and female submission.

I am finding Professor Kendi's "Chain of Ideas" intriguing. There have been a few places where I paused to consider something from a completely different perspective triggered by his comments. For example in the introduction he says "When we believe we are dominant as opposed to privileged, we defend our privileges as if we are defending our domination over others. But, in actuality, we are defending the domination of others over us." I was fascinated to consider that being privileged does not necessarily mean being dominant. Then later in Chapter 26 he says, "The history of defining racism is also the history of denying racism." This too is intriguing. He has a way of stating things one way and reversing the statement that delivers an intellectual punch. Sometimes, it seems overly clever but always thought-provoking.

I read the review in the New York Times. I thought the review was fair, not that I totally agreed with it, but there are some structural issues. What I do agree with is that the concept that Replacement Theory is the basis for authoritarian movements across the world, while interesting and viable, it is only one variable among many that has caused authoritarianism to arise. It would be interesting to have Kendi's hypothesis placed in the context of other issues. He does acknowledge that economic inequality and poverty contribute to the movement towards autocracy, but he could go much further with exploring the various aspects of our society as well as some of the deeper psychological reasons for why humans respond to group differences in the way we do. What is tribalism? Why does it exist? What threat or threats does it try to defend against?

Anyway, the book is fascinating and I am getting a lot out it. There are many details of the countries' political situations and their leaders that he focuses on about which I was unaware.