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Kirsten L. Held's avatar

I'd love to watch it but don't subscribe to AppleTV and just can't afford another subscription. Hopefully it will show up on Prime eventually. And I would go one step further. In the early days of the pandemic, the virus didn't appear to be affecting children as badly as elderly people. Because of this situation, which never should have been considered permanent and in fact turned out to be temporary, many people refused to do even the smallest things to protect others. Of course, as we now know (well any of us that have paid attention and are being honest about it), the virus did eventually start to affect children very badly and many have been lost or now suffer from Long Covid as a result. We must care about EVERYONE in our community. I am especially sensitive to this as I never got to have children but consider my life to be of value. In any case, the sentiment should be both at the societal and individual levels. As a society, the U.S. populace sadly demonstrated its total uninterest and care for its weakest members whether they be children, elderly, or disabled. That is the measure of a society.

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Boris Voyer's avatar

Interview on Democracy Now with the makers of Orwell 2+2=5:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X61vAlTJSGY

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LindyLoo's avatar

Paradise was a horrific fire! I have friends who were born and lived there. They had about 10 minutes to flee. They went the back road to Chico but those that didn't, were killed. They lost everything but were grateful to be alive. Everyone who survived the fire still has trauma today.

Thank you for sharing the movie and your thoughts.

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Diane Smith's avatar

1. Very interesting! I will find a way to watch this.

(I recommend watching or re-watching 2020's TV show: 'Woke' with Lamorne Morris

After seeing someone being awakened, WOKE became even more real to me. My 20something

Brooklyn based daughter, laughed so hard at her Liberal mom. I was passionate abut it! and

was sure this should be required viewing for people "against woke culture" Still do!

2. Am currently reading Hannah Ritchie's 'Not the End of the World - climate info. Excellent.

3. I work in a school. I see a of both: Caring for all & caring for ONLY your own. Our current prez :(

is a prime example of caring very little to not at all about his own, let alone others' families.

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roytwilliams's avatar

Time to defund '47' - to walk the walk. Cancel remittances to the '47' Whitehouse.

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Boris Voyer's avatar

I can't wait to see that film. May I recommend another? The 2025 documentary "Orwell 2+2=5" by the fantastic Haitian filmmaker Raoul Peck. Here is the trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ8l6HSCWBw

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Donna Thomas's avatar

I remember listening to something on a group of individuals attempting to be lead out of, I believe the camp fire, and ended up being trapped. They circled the emergency vehicles and tried to protect everyone but the they knew it was futile until helicopters arrived. Horrifying story, as is The Lost Bus. But the end gives hope.

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TerriC's avatar

Your eloquent critique is spot on as always.

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Diane Smith's avatar

A picture of 'our' Anand is in the dictionary next to the word eloquent.

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Anissa's avatar

We have Apple+, so I will add it to our movie night list. Thanks for the rec.

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Heather's avatar

Should the title be, even when your own aren’t clearly IN the fire?A little confusing. Sounds like a fabulous movie. I was just at a climate protest this past weekend. One of the issues for some there was bundling all these issues together (main sticking point was Gaza/colonialiam/imperialism being tied in, leading to the question, do we have to solve all these other problems at the same time? Kinda the same issue with how to strategically protest the shutdown. How do we build recognition these problems are intertwined, but also go for the win that could snowball?

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Anand Giridharadas's avatar

It actually works both ways. But I meant "in." You'll see why. Tell me what you think!

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A______'s avatar

Appreciate you and Priya

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