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Naima  (NM)'s avatar

We can think of them as Prodigal Children, brethren, and indeed welcome them. Ridiculing them, calling them names, etc., is not the way to unify our democracy. Loving our neighbor as ourselves, remember. And hell no, it ain’t always easy. But worthwhile and the compassionate way? I think so. Thank you Anand.

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Barbara Stumpf's avatar

Hi, Naima. A prodigal child, prodigal kin. Great connection. Thank you for situating our response in its highest ethical context. And heartfelt thanks to Anand for his powerful exhortation.

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MC Marianne's avatar

Well said, I totally agree!

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Regina Islas's avatar

It's not just math or politics-it's humility and forgiveness too AG. Great to see you 'animated' and passionate. True inclusiveness, Bridge building matters now, especially now. TY for the reminder.

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Priya K's avatar
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100%! I understand the anger, but we need a bigger “us”. Time to practice some acceptance and lead by a better example. For MATH reasons and for centering humanity.

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Roman Goz's avatar

Please remember that nobody is “running to us”!! We are like some children waiting for the miracle of that Glorious Moment! No one is running to you Democrats, please let us remember that— yes they have a domestic squabble yes it’s real, but they hate us and everything we stand for— remember “liberalism is a disease!” You really think that they will run to our camp?! Hopping for a hug of forgiveness? The thing that they are going to do is to band together in more militia and now they will hate both Reps and Dems and Anand is a very good writer and journalist and human being but he is not (I think and maybe I’m wrong!) part of humanity who lived for many years under fascism and the way Americans “tease” themselves— oh yeah, now they are finally coming apart at the seams and they are eating each other and you just wait and day after tomorrow and probably Monday you’ll see an event that will bring them together even harder!! They are playing us and I don’t have any specific knowledge about how it’s going to be done but it’s coming and we are going to be disappointed because we took our eyes off the ball of Gest-Gaspacho in masks kidnapping people in our city and country and we are getting used to be disappointed and they see it and how easily they changed the subject from ICE to Epstein conspiracy theory but who actually believes that they are going to release something other than what works for them?!

Please don’t be played again and again!! And if I am not sounding jubilant about THE FILES well I am sorry but I have seen masters doing this and the whole thing is from KGB playbook and it was done like def not something tman created and executed, it is professional job and it working!

Thank you for reading this

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Wendy Voahangy Ravano's avatar

Yes, all of what is happening to the United States now has the stink of KGB playbook and it is going to be worse because of the portion ICE and private contractors will obtain under the Ugly bill. Seriously, everyone shut this down ASAP ✨🙏🏽✨♥️✌🏾✨

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Diane Kirkland's avatar

Thank you, Anand, for your directness in addressing this issue!

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Sandra Alvarez's avatar

I appreciate your rant even though I felt a little guilty. I haven’t piled on any maga people myself but certainly understand the wanting to. You’re absolutely correct. We need open arms. 🤗

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kbacon's avatar

thank you for this "rant". Your explanation has really helped in so many ways (e.g. "do you know how many racists voted for Obama?", "did your facts help with your last argument with your spouse" LOL ).

Unfortunately the MAGA folk (in our family!) do not appear to be questioning this yet because they are so angry. But I am hoping

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Penelope Guyton's avatar

I'm SO glad to hear you saying this, Anand. The evolution of consciousness occurs when a group sees that their leader has feet of clay. Our task is definitely to welcome them and help them feel at home in a new way.

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Penelope Guyton's avatar

I’m so happy to see so many people engaged in Anand’s conversations. I have been a follower ever since I first heard him on Morning Joe. Seems a lifetime ago.

It is so important for us to learn together how to embody “soft diplomacy” with evolved Warrior power. That is - striving for win-win solutions.

Thank you Anand! Keep the rants coming!

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B. King's avatar

I also got acquainted with Anand on MSNBC quite a while ago. I must admit to having a hard time with trust and getting rid of my anger and frustration to welcome all in. Guess a lot more meditation 🧘‍♂️

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Penelope Guyton's avatar

I’m not sure we have to deny being angry. Anger is a very natural human emotion and it’s triggered especially when we see ourselves or someone else being hurt. Like, every day! But as Anand says, anger is not a strategy. I think it may be possible to say, I’m angry AND I can let it lead me to a new strategy. Goodness knows we need one!

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B. King's avatar

Thank u. I really appreciate those thoughts.

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Penelope Guyton's avatar

There is a system that describes the evolution of consciousness in groups called Spiral Dynamics. I wish it was more widely known as it gives clear descriptions as to how we evolve.

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B. King's avatar

Will look into it.

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Michele McGurrin's avatar

I agree…. Forgiveness

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Pat Duke's avatar

It’s a big ask to open the tent. Values are not shared.

Maybe I should take heart and look at how the Germans handled post-nazi. One thing they did was make certain things illegal, such as the swastika. Is it time for us to update the First Amendment?

I certainly think we have to rethink what is treason, which is a knife that can cut both ways in the wrong hands.

I do think a lot of people voted for one issue, and have been backstabbed. To me, that is a clarion call for abandoning the electoral college.

We need a lot of change. We need a progressive, not centrist, platform.

I would love to see churches lose their power and taxation exemption permanently. Make a fool of the pastors who embraced this immoral, sick, man-child.

We cannot vote for anyone who does not see green energy as one of the top 5 challenges. It’s not enough to say it. Who has a plan?

It must be rant day.

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Sophie's avatar

Of course the electoral college has to go. Also the legality of corporate bribery. Lobbying ought to be a verbal, not a financial exercise, as in other countries (at least according to the law). Also, ranked choice voting seems to give people a better choice.

But, I digress.

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Marsha Lieberman's avatar

Rant accepted?

Rant EMBRACED!

Brilliant.

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Friedrike Merck's avatar

As Eckhart Tolle advises, (which re-inforces what the Buddha advised), the power of now, the present is all we have. Grasping for anything else causes pain and suffering.

The past, which gives us identity, and the future, which holds the promise of fulfillment, are illusions that we create or keep alive in our minds.

In order to welcome to the cause of democracy, those who once may have damaged it in the past, we must be present with their reality that now, they are stepping onto a new path. No judgement. Who are we to judge?

“Realize deeply that the present moment is all you ever have. Make the Now the primary focus of your life.”

“The Power of Now” Eckhard Tolle

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Tracy Cummings's avatar

I love you! You are so right about all this -- When a person joins a cult, they often join a community and have one. When they leave a cult, they need community. We can be that community. After all, there is no one but us here.

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Susan Miville's avatar

I totally understand why your are frustrated and concerned. Your rant was eloquent! It is unhelpful when people cast aspersions on others. I mentioned in the book club session that there was a thread on Threads where people were complaining about Texas and Texans during the Flood saying things like the people of Texas deserve what they get, or everyone in Texas is stupid. We are not going to survive this moment if we treat Trump supporters with disdain, no matter how much we disagree with them, or how annoyed we are that Trump was voted back into office. Most Trump supporters, unfortunately, get their news from mainly one source, a source that has consistently deceived them. If there is finally a time, and maybe that time is now, when they begin to see how much they have been played by Trump and his cohort, that will be a great moment. Hate is never a solution.

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Rachel Fisher's avatar

Yes! Now is the time for us to bond with our fellow Americans over having been duped. We ALL want to know the truth about Trump's relationship with Epstein. Let's join the Trump supporters in demanding the truth. We should say to THEM -- This Epstein thing is suspicious. Let's find out the truth together. THEN once we have a relationship, we start asking other questions, and that leads them to wonder what else they didn't ask and what else they were misled about.

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noreen faeryspirit.com's avatar

100%

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Patty Parks-Wasserman's avatar

Yes, of course they caused really bad problems- they suck, AND the problems are here now- that’s the reality- defectors reduce their numbers, increase ours, and their actions give permission to others who might waver to defect themselves. The more defectors the less power they have, the less minions to do their dirty work.

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